Of course, both of you trying to lay the local blame, as a distraction, (as do all the presstitutes, world-wide). and omit the fact that the united snakes invested 3.7 million $ in the Wuhan labs (germ warfare labs) You both have access to Professor Francis Boyle's work on tracing the virus and determining the 'gain-up- procedures used to magnify terminal effects of Cov-Sars 19 g2 virus.. Add the Bill Gates multi-million dollar input, and there you have it The virus is man-made, and made by the 'mighty' us dollar End-of, (millions of folks)
Maybe so, but not the issue at hand. Stick with the "reasonable official" standard. If in the future your assertions are proven true and it's DJT's fault, you have a case.
Issue at hand...Mmmm ..'reasonable official'? There are none visible (neither are there any sensible of the breed ..) You are just engaged in blowing smoke screens. He was right, no he wasn't..Yes he did.. No he didn't.. (Who cares? )
It just depends where your politics fall.. Biowarfare is not bipartisan and it doesn't give a damn about any opinion of who isor was right or wrong...
It'll kill us all, (and it has already cost countless lives) so please do not trivialise it as a sideline..
No, "reasonable official" is objectively defined as average. As much as we wish for the "better Angel's of our nature" we are bound to be governed no smarter or dumber than we are..... hence "average"
Francis Boyle is a professor of international law at the University of Illinois College of Law. He drafted the U.S. domestic implementing legislation for the Biological Weapons Convention, known as the Biological Weapons Anti-Terrorism Act of 1989, that was approved unanimously by both Houses,
I started my business in Costa Rica in 2007, and grew it through the Great Recession. In the States, we had the hiccups. Down in Central America, it cost lives and health. It's more like trading the economy to save me, since my probability of dying of this virus is high.
The problem with Frum's article is he attacks DJT strategy but offers no alternative. He acts if DJT's strategy is designed to hurt Americans, but what options does he have? Even Frum says we can't stay locked down forever. This is a very weak article with many assertions with little supporting data - just opinion. Remember it's not a choice between higher mortality rates and the economy; it's a choice between mortality and mortality. Everyday forward our mortality risks from the disease diminish while the mortality risks from economic catastrophe grow.
Very easy to throw stones when you're not in the "Arena".
Lt Col, we may have a few disagreements, but to call the President "notoriously optimistic" is the most painful. He can be many things, but to call him an optimist is a dodge. He's optimistic when it soothes the mob. He's pessimistic when it riles them. This isn't optimist, this is opportunism.
These are the hallmarks of a carnie, and I've seen too many rubes over these last few years to take that soft sell quietly. He doesn't need you to provide cover, there are plenty of people all too eager to line up at his tent.
Maybe, but irrelevant to the argument presented..... even if his optimism also helps his political campaign it doesn't negate its effect (Watch Alan Dershowitz hammer this home during the impeachment trial).
I think the issue comes down to the narrative we each view this president with. If you're sympathetic to him, you'll overlook the misses and count the hits. If you hate him, you'll enjoy every miss and ignore the hits. I make an effort to be fair, but I cannot shake my allergy to the carnie act.
To tie this in to your discussion with Claire (which I really appreciate you both for having), times like this demand responsible messaging. Speak briefly and plainly about what our projections are. Don't speak "aspirational," because you're planning for November and need for the economy to look good. Enough of this country lacks the scientific literacy to take this event seriously, and we need leadership that is going to recognize that, not take advantage.
Thanks again for having this conversation. I hope I don't come off as too angry to contribute. I really value this sort of work.
To be honest my vote in 16 was to keep Hillary out, not put DJT in. But in 2020 I'm full MAGA. Like most you found his shtick carnie like, unprofessional and cringe worthy. So what changed? 1) He's followed through on his promises. 2) I rhetoric with a different ear now. Scott Adams describes it as watching the same action but seeing two movies. His latest example is the Jedi Mind Trick he played on the governors.... For weeks he was touting Federalism and State's sovereignty then abruptly change last week to say he had all authority. Some will say because he's a dictator or stupid.... I saw a different movie. He just got the states to do what he wanted...... https://twitter.com/adamctharp/status/1249837840034402305?s=20
Scott Adams is too post modernist for me to take seriously on this point. His take is allowing people to make excuses for bad behavior, rather than accept actions for what they are.
"I know more about ISIS than the generals do."
This is not the move of a 4-D Chess Master. This is a blowhard playing well to an audience that's too eager to make excuses for him. I can't pretend he's dancing along a knife edge to victory, when it's far more likely his wins are the result of our susceptibility to confidence men.
As far as the recent plays with the states, I can't be sure that he acted with intent. But I can be sure that Adams has to be an Olympic Gymnasts to leap to that conclusion as often as he does.
Like I said we're seeing the same action but watching two movies. But have you ever noticed how DJT throws comments out there? It's like he's fishing.... if people or the press bites he rides that bronco..... if they don't he moves on.... Chess or not, he has a unique talent that got him into the White House... and have you noticed he's about the only one that is new to the DC political scene? Funny how everybody dumps on him but say little about the career politicians, very strange
This says a lot more about a vulnerability of democratic states, than it does the strength of a candidate. And why I consider him to be a symptom of a much more serious disease.
There is one other: Marco Rubio, the only other candidate I would consider voting for. He eschewed rubbing elbows (appropo for current times) with his colleagues and falling into line.
As a Marine, I concur w and endorse the Col's self-regard and his aggrandizement of our club. :) But I love your stuff always, Claire, and so even with all the advantages one naturally has as a Marine, the Col is still at a disadvantage starting out. Marines always love a challenge. Thanks for the discussion. Of course this can be done - it's how sane adults converse.
Of course, both of you trying to lay the local blame, as a distraction, (as do all the presstitutes, world-wide). and omit the fact that the united snakes invested 3.7 million $ in the Wuhan labs (germ warfare labs) You both have access to Professor Francis Boyle's work on tracing the virus and determining the 'gain-up- procedures used to magnify terminal effects of Cov-Sars 19 g2 virus.. Add the Bill Gates multi-million dollar input, and there you have it The virus is man-made, and made by the 'mighty' us dollar End-of, (millions of folks)
Maybe so, but not the issue at hand. Stick with the "reasonable official" standard. If in the future your assertions are proven true and it's DJT's fault, you have a case.
Issue at hand...Mmmm ..'reasonable official'? There are none visible (neither are there any sensible of the breed ..) You are just engaged in blowing smoke screens. He was right, no he wasn't..Yes he did.. No he didn't.. (Who cares? )
It just depends where your politics fall.. Biowarfare is not bipartisan and it doesn't give a damn about any opinion of who isor was right or wrong...
It'll kill us all, (and it has already cost countless lives) so please do not trivialise it as a sideline..
No, "reasonable official" is objectively defined as average. As much as we wish for the "better Angel's of our nature" we are bound to be governed no smarter or dumber than we are..... hence "average"
and it is not 'my assertion' I'm afraid, but rather the highly educated opinion of someone who wrote the bio-warfare conventions manual. .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DAI3c9wE0Q
Francis Boyle is a professor of international law at the University of Illinois College of Law. He drafted the U.S. domestic implementing legislation for the Biological Weapons Convention, known as the Biological Weapons Anti-Terrorism Act of 1989, that was approved unanimously by both Houses,
David Frum is taking a good sharp look at the present and the near future: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/04/trump-trading-lives-poor-economic-growth/610264/
I started my business in Costa Rica in 2007, and grew it through the Great Recession. In the States, we had the hiccups. Down in Central America, it cost lives and health. It's more like trading the economy to save me, since my probability of dying of this virus is high.
The problem with Frum's article is he attacks DJT strategy but offers no alternative. He acts if DJT's strategy is designed to hurt Americans, but what options does he have? Even Frum says we can't stay locked down forever. This is a very weak article with many assertions with little supporting data - just opinion. Remember it's not a choice between higher mortality rates and the economy; it's a choice between mortality and mortality. Everyday forward our mortality risks from the disease diminish while the mortality risks from economic catastrophe grow.
Very easy to throw stones when you're not in the "Arena".
He is, and that article is enough to make me put my fist through the wall.
Lt Col, we may have a few disagreements, but to call the President "notoriously optimistic" is the most painful. He can be many things, but to call him an optimist is a dodge. He's optimistic when it soothes the mob. He's pessimistic when it riles them. This isn't optimist, this is opportunism.
These are the hallmarks of a carnie, and I've seen too many rubes over these last few years to take that soft sell quietly. He doesn't need you to provide cover, there are plenty of people all too eager to line up at his tent.
Maybe, but irrelevant to the argument presented..... even if his optimism also helps his political campaign it doesn't negate its effect (Watch Alan Dershowitz hammer this home during the impeachment trial).
I think the issue comes down to the narrative we each view this president with. If you're sympathetic to him, you'll overlook the misses and count the hits. If you hate him, you'll enjoy every miss and ignore the hits. I make an effort to be fair, but I cannot shake my allergy to the carnie act.
To tie this in to your discussion with Claire (which I really appreciate you both for having), times like this demand responsible messaging. Speak briefly and plainly about what our projections are. Don't speak "aspirational," because you're planning for November and need for the economy to look good. Enough of this country lacks the scientific literacy to take this event seriously, and we need leadership that is going to recognize that, not take advantage.
Thanks again for having this conversation. I hope I don't come off as too angry to contribute. I really value this sort of work.
To be honest my vote in 16 was to keep Hillary out, not put DJT in. But in 2020 I'm full MAGA. Like most you found his shtick carnie like, unprofessional and cringe worthy. So what changed? 1) He's followed through on his promises. 2) I rhetoric with a different ear now. Scott Adams describes it as watching the same action but seeing two movies. His latest example is the Jedi Mind Trick he played on the governors.... For weeks he was touting Federalism and State's sovereignty then abruptly change last week to say he had all authority. Some will say because he's a dictator or stupid.... I saw a different movie. He just got the states to do what he wanted...... https://twitter.com/adamctharp/status/1249837840034402305?s=20
Scott Adams is too post modernist for me to take seriously on this point. His take is allowing people to make excuses for bad behavior, rather than accept actions for what they are.
"I know more about ISIS than the generals do."
This is not the move of a 4-D Chess Master. This is a blowhard playing well to an audience that's too eager to make excuses for him. I can't pretend he's dancing along a knife edge to victory, when it's far more likely his wins are the result of our susceptibility to confidence men.
As far as the recent plays with the states, I can't be sure that he acted with intent. But I can be sure that Adams has to be an Olympic Gymnasts to leap to that conclusion as often as he does.
Like I said we're seeing the same action but watching two movies. But have you ever noticed how DJT throws comments out there? It's like he's fishing.... if people or the press bites he rides that bronco..... if they don't he moves on.... Chess or not, he has a unique talent that got him into the White House... and have you noticed he's about the only one that is new to the DC political scene? Funny how everybody dumps on him but say little about the career politicians, very strange
This says a lot more about a vulnerability of democratic states, than it does the strength of a candidate. And why I consider him to be a symptom of a much more serious disease.
There is one other: Marco Rubio, the only other candidate I would consider voting for. He eschewed rubbing elbows (appropo for current times) with his colleagues and falling into line.
As a Marine, I concur w and endorse the Col's self-regard and his aggrandizement of our club. :) But I love your stuff always, Claire, and so even with all the advantages one naturally has as a Marine, the Col is still at a disadvantage starting out. Marines always love a challenge. Thanks for the discussion. Of course this can be done - it's how sane adults converse.
SEMPER FRIGGEN FIDELIS!